Things are really heating up and it is going to be interesting as Ed
Labate and Ed Trice threaten each other.
I do not know either of them so I have no opinion as to who is right,
but Ed Labate has been involved in chess both as a book seller and as
a tournament organizer for at least 40 years whereas Ed Trice is a
recently arrived huxter, so I am inclined to believe that Ed Labate is
right and Ed Trice is a fraud.
On the other hand, Ed Labate filed a frivolous lawsuit against the
USCF around 25 years ago for refusing to list his tournaments in the
TLA section of Chess Life and was paid a settlement of $30,000. Ed
Trice gets favorable mention for revealing that Rob "The Robber"
Mitchell was trying to scam him for $35,000. Ed Trice has received a
lot of favorable publicity on the Polgar websites.
Read the following websites and formulate your own opinion:
This is just example where Trice has been caught out lying. The most
hilarious examples can be found when he talks about the Gothic Chess
tournaments he held which attracted 4000 or more participants! http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/show...d=54078&page=5
<Ed Labate has been involved in chess both as a book seller and as a
tournament organizer for at least 40 years.>
Sam, I'm 53 years old...I've been selling chess books since 1979, and
running tournaments since 1981,i.e. 24 years old and 26 years old, not
at 13 years old!
<On the other hand, Ed Labate filed a frivolous lawsuit against the
USCF around 25 years ago for refusing to list his tournaments in the
TLA section of Chess Life and was paid a settlement of $30,000.>
Sam, I've emailed you on this before, and yet you persist and
misstating what happened: The USCF suspended my affiliation without
due process, i.e., notice. This was the famous "We received your
money. However, your flag fell!' Gerry Dullea witticism. The USCF
refuse to reinstate me, even though I know had a ZERO balance, thereby
destroying my business. My business was based on foot traffic. Yes,
they paid me to settle out of court $30,000.00, 13 months later!!
Well, the damage was done. I won the battle and lost the war. My
business never recovered and in 1990 I closed down my chess center and
starting selling vintage sportscards.
Best Wishes!
Edward Labate
National Chess Master
P.O. Box 1404
Athens,AL. 35612
Ed Labate may have truth and justice on his
side, but what happens in court is another question.
Still, based on what I have read (and I've not
seen every reference devoted to the case), it a
appears that Ed Trice is in trouble.
I hope that Ed Labate will show some charity and
settle for a modest cash amount plus an airtight,
public admission from Mr. Trice of guilt. This latter
has to be very direct and, in fact, an unconditional
declaration of surrender.
It often happens that people enter our world of
chess, play some egregiously stupid games involving
either semi-fraud or worse -- and then later settle
down and become productive chess citizens.
How old is Mr. Trice?
Yours, Larry Parr
Edward Labate wrote:
> <Ed Labate has been involved in chess both as a book seller and as a
> tournament organizer for at least 40 years.>
>
> Sam, I'm 53 years old...I've been selling chess books since 1979, and
> running tournaments since 1981,i.e. 24 years old and 26 years old, not
> at 13 years old!
>
> <On the other hand, Ed Labate filed a frivolous lawsuit against the
> USCF around 25 years ago for refusing to list his tournaments in the
> TLA section of Chess Life and was paid a settlement of $30,000.>
>
> Sam, I've emailed you on this before, and yet you persist and
> misstating what happened: The USCF suspended my affiliation without
> due process, i.e., notice. This was the famous "We received your
> money. However, your flag fell!' Gerry Dullea witticism. The USCF
> refuse to reinstate me, even though I know had a ZERO balance, thereby
> destroying my business. My business was based on foot traffic. Yes,
> they paid me to settle out of court $30,000.00, 13 months later!!
> Well, the damage was done. I won the battle and lost the war. My
> business never recovered and in 1990 I closed down my chess center and
> starting selling vintage sportscards.
>
> Best Wishes!
>
> Edward Labate
> National Chess Master
> P.O. Box 1404
> Athens,AL. 35612
>
> 256.829.2298 / LEAVE MESSAGE
> OUTSIDE OF ALABAMA,
> TOLL FREE 877.336.7021 / LEAVE MESSAGE
>
> labatechess@sbcglobal.net
>
> P.S. newest website listings
> http://www.labatechess.com/store/
>
> http://www.amazon.com/shops/labatechess
>
> ALSO, MUST READING / Please forward as a warning and Public Service
> Announcement/PSA to all you know:
> http://www.labatechess.com/61_games.html RE: My 61 Memorable Games
> Hoax
> http://www.labatechess.com/ed_trice.html RE: 'PHILLY PHRAUD', Ed Trice/
> Gothic Chess
> http://www.labatechess.com/robert_snyder.htmlm RE: Convicted Felon/
> Pedophile, Robert Snyder
Ed Trice was born on 5th December 1966 and is hence 41 years old. Far
too old to change his ways - I should know as I am just a few days
older than Trice!
Can you give any examples of people making an inglorious entry into
the chess world but then changing their ways and doing something
worthwhile and becoming respected by their peers? I can think of a few
who have got into fist fights, but that is a sign of hot-headedness
rather than the inherent evil mind that is needed to attempt fraud on
fellow chess players.
On Jun 1, 8:58 am, "parrthe...@cs.com" <parrthe...@cs.com> wrote:
>
> It often happens that people enter our world of
> chess, play some egregiously stupid games involving
> either semi-fraud or worse -- and then later settle
> down and become productive chess citizens.
>
> How old is Mr. Trice?
>
> > ALSO, MUST READING / Please forward as a warning and Public Service
> > Announcement/PSA to all you know:
> >http://www.labatechess.com/61_games.htmlRE: My 61 Memorable Games
> > Hoax
> >http://www.labatechess.com/ed_trice.htmlRE: 'PHILLY PHRAUD', Ed Trice/
> > Gothic Chess
> >http://www.labatechess.com/robert_snyder.htmlmRE: Convicted Felon/
> > Pedophile, Robert Snyder
Mike Murray wrote:
> On Sat, 31 May 2008 12:08:42 -0700 (PDT), Edward Labate
> <labatechess@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
> >http://www.labatechess.com/robert_snyder.html
>
>
> Ed, is this the same guy who has a variation of the Sicilian named
> after him, and a variation in the Blackmar-Diemer gambit?
I didn't know about the Blackmar-Diemer variation, but yes, it's the
same Robert Snyder.
Here is a message that Trice posted on chessgames.com just before the
eBay auction for "My 61 Memorable Games" in December 2007:
"Ed Trice: Not only is that old news, he is doing much better.
Furthermore, his new book is being printed right now. A new email
address can reach the man in direct contact with him regarding
resellers who wish to order it. This is for people who will order 100
or more copies of it at a time for resale. If some of you want to "ask
the man" anything, coming directly from him himself, get on this list.
Maybe if you order 10 books at a discount and get 9 other people to do
the same, one of you can collect the order money and make a reseller
purchase of 100 books. For all serious inquires, send an email to GothicChessInfo@aol.com and I will help move this along. NOTE: All I
did was hook Fischer up with a reliable printer, I don't have the
book, I don't have access to the book, I just helped him out when
everyone else turned their backs on him."
This doesn't really gel with what Trice now claims his involvement
was, does it?
On 31 May, 17:32, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Things are really heating up and it is going to be interesting as Ed
> Labate and Ed Trice threaten each other.
>
> I do not know either of them so I have no opinion as to who is right,
> but Ed Labate has been involved in chess both as a book seller and as
> a tournament organizer for at least 40 years whereas Ed Trice is a
> recently arrived huxter, so I am inclined to believe that Ed Labate is
> right and Ed Trice is a fraud.
>
> On the other hand, Ed Labate filed a frivolous lawsuit against the
> USCF around 25 years ago for refusing to list his tournaments in the
> TLA section of Chess Life and was paid a settlement of $30,000. Ed
> Trice gets favorable mention for revealing that Rob "The Robber"
> Mitchell was trying to scam him for $35,000. Ed Trice has received a
> lot of favorable publicity on the Polgar websites.
>
> Read the following websites and formulate your own opinion:
>
> The Gothic Chess Federation
> re: Ed Labatehttp://www.gothicchess.com/labate.html
>
> Labate Chess
> re: Ed Tricehttp://www.labatechess.com/ed_trice.html
>
> Dear Ed Trice may be in a lot of trouble.
>
> As "My 61 Memorable Games" by Bobby Fischer goes from a mystery to a
> hoax ...
>
> US Chess Federation
> My 61 Memorable Games: A Mystery
> by GM Larry Evans
> February 1, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8175/431
>
> US Chess Federation
> My 61 Memorable Games: A Hoax
> by GM Larry Evans
> April 10, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8333/446
>
> Blame is casted and scapegoats are sought (including a criminal
> complaint with the FBI) ...
>
> Chess Ninja
> Daily Dirt
> Fischer Bookhttp://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt/2007/12/fischer_book_for_real.htm
>
> Fischer's My 61 Memorable Games
> Google Groupshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/browse_thread...
>
> Positions are declared, reputations are staked and a 10-count libel
> lawsuit is filed ...
>
> The Gothic Chess Forum
> re: Ed Labate
> page 1http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=779ceae97b...
> page 2http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=71c84948aa...
On Jun 2, 6:48*am, jon.dsouza...@gmail.com wrote:
> Here is a message that Trice posted on chessgames.com just before the
> eBay auction for "My 61 Memorable Games" in December 2007:
>
> "Ed Trice: Not only is that old news, he is doing much better.
> Furthermore, his new book is being printed right now. A new email
> address can reach the man in direct contact with him regarding
> resellers who wish to order it. This is for people who will order 100
> or more copies of it at a time for resale. If some of you want to "ask
> the man" anything, coming directly from him himself, get on this list.
> Maybe if you order 10 books at a discount and get 9 other people to do
> the same, one of you can collect the order money and make a reseller
> purchase of 100 books. For all serious inquires, send an email to
> GothicChessI...@aol.com and I will help move this along. NOTE: All I
> did was hook Fischer up with a reliable printer, I don't have the
> book, I don't have access to the book, I just helped him out when
> everyone else turned their backs on him."
>
> This doesn't really gel with what Trice now claims his involvement
> was, does it?
>
> On 31 May, 17:32, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Things are really heating up and it is going to be interesting as Ed
> > Labate and Ed Trice threaten each other.
>
> > I do not know either of them so I have no opinion as to who is right,
> > but Ed Labate has been involved in chess both as a book seller and as
> > a tournament organizer for at least 40 years whereas Ed Trice is a
> > recently arrived huxter, so I am inclined to believe that Ed Labate is
> > right and Ed Trice is a fraud.
>
> > On the other hand, Ed Labate filed a frivolous lawsuit against the
> > USCF around 25 years ago for refusing to list his tournaments in the
> > TLA section of Chess Life and was paid a settlement of $30,000. Ed
> > Trice gets favorable mention for revealing that Rob "The Robber"
> > Mitchell was trying to scam him for $35,000. Ed Trice has received a
> > lot of favorable publicity on the Polgar websites.
>
> > Read the following websites and formulate your own opinion:
>
> > The Gothic Chess Federation
> > re: Ed Labatehttp://www.gothicchess.com/labate.html
>
> > Labate Chess
> > re: Ed Tricehttp://www.labatechess.com/ed_trice.html
>
> > Dear Ed Trice may be in a lot of trouble.
>
> > As "My 61 Memorable Games" by Bobby Fischer goes from a mystery to a
> > hoax ...
>
> > US Chess Federation
> > My 61 Memorable Games: A Mystery
> > by GM Larry Evans
> > February 1, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8175/431
>
> > US Chess Federation
> > My 61 Memorable Games: A Hoax
> > by GM Larry Evans
> > April 10, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8333/446
>
> > Blame is casted and scapegoats are sought (including a criminal
> > complaint with the FBI) ...
>
> > Chess Ninja
> > Daily Dirt
> > Fischer Bookhttp://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt/2007/12/fischer_book_for_real.htm
>
> > Fischer's My 61 Memorable Games
> > Google Groupshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/browse_thread...
>
> > Positions are declared, reputations are staked and a 10-count libel
> > lawsuit is filed ...
>
> > The Gothic Chess Forum
> > re: Ed Labate
> > page 1http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=779ceae97b...
> > page 2http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=71c84948aa...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
On Jun 2, 5:42 pm, Rob <robmt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Believe Mr. Labate
Interesting point: It is primarily because of Ed Trice that Rob "The
Robber" Mitchell got his moniker "The Robber".
So, as it becomes increasingly clear that Ed Trice was behind the "My
61 Memorable Games Hoax", one must consider the possibility, however
unlikely as it may seem, that Rob Mitchell really did not try to
swindle Ed Trice out of $35,000.
Also, it was Ed Trice who claimed that he had written a computer
program that had solved the game of checkers. This turns out not to be
true either.
So, we must look back and re-evaluate all the claims that Ed Trice has
been making.
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